Alliance Raid is a focal point for this sort of thing because CT is required for MSQ and some people lower their ilvl to get an "easy" (yet still manage to wipe in LotA/WoD) alliance raid from the roulette, so between those two things many people are sick of seeing CT every time they do the roulette. Edit: I now realize this is about the MSQ roulette and not leveling roulette. level 2. The alliance raid and normal raid roulete unlocks when you have unlocked 2 or. The raids are also max lvl content for their given expansion and thus didn't grant exp and instead tomestones. This would likely be specific to the two 8-man dungeons in the MSQ roulette, both of which contain quite a few unskippable cutscenes; they were eventually made this way so new players wouldn't be missing out on the plot, as the norm before then was for players to skip all of them and steamroll the place. I reported them but it still left a really bad taste for me. (same for non lv 80 24man raids but Syrcus is the fastest)Anything in the MSQ roulette will give you tomes, so queue for that. They made it so that it's worthwhile for older players to run them, otherwise nobody would touch them again after the first time, and eventually new players wouldn't be able to finish ARR, since it would. usagizero • 3 yr. Almost 50% of a level. It's because it's the lowest level. Everyone’s talking about MSQ Roulette but guildhests being punted on for now is a shame, it’s been a sore spot for just as long. The only real way to make the CT raids fun again is to ilvl cap them. I think a better solution would be to have a scaling min ilvl for the roulette based on your jobs level. As for msq specifically, the most recent I did was in the upper 70s and I got. It's because it's the lowest level. Sometimes I overlevel. After completing the MSQ, players will have access to the Armoury Bonus for all combat jobs lower than their highest leveled job. MSQ roulette is a great way to get some extra EXP in FF14. You can ignore all the other ones. Moogle events turn MSQ Roulette into Praetorium Roulette. MSQ? Approximately 50% of a level for Prae as opposed to ~75% of a level. also if you got d/c-ed during one, you'll skip it once you get back in. If you're level 55, and you get Sastasha which is a level 16 dungeon, you get a massive bonus because the dungeon itself gives you little exp. Would also like the two msq stories to become Trusts where you lead your allies into the fight, and turn the boss fights of Prae into a mini raid/trial series, dividing the Nero, Gauis, Ultima Weapon, and Lahabrea fights into 4 separate instances that could be part of the standard Raid/Trial Roulette (or a new MSQ raid/trial roulette that could. MSQ is causing some social tension in our FC. MSQ Roulette is a great opportunity to do things like check my email, clean a little, do laundry, make phone calls. Good news, you can simply not do the MSQ Roulette. Odin isn't in trial roulette (only mentor roulette) so post a PF group for that one and do it unsynced (a level 90 can solo it in less than a minute). 2023 Swiftsure Swiftsure International Yacht Race, May 27 - 28, 2023. However, some dungeons must be unlocked via "blue quests". Good job Square; I no longer hate MSQ roulette. Runtimes of Praetorium were at least halved when not having to wait for PS3's to load in and out of every single scene. Reaper Lv 90. For Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "How are people getting through cutscenes in MSQ Roulette faster?". You sure as hell can bet that when I hit 90 on all classes I will probably never queue up for MSQ except in specific cases, those being when I'm doing with a friend who is doing it for levelling, or the rare occasion I make a friend who has yet. Unpopular opinion but I say they add an ilevel restriction for alliance raid roulette as well as requirements to unlock all raids up to your current max level class. #swiftsureThey need to fix it so they both give the same amount of exp. rafaelfy. Or they can remove the unskippable cutscenes when everyone in the. So if you go into EW you might notice that you level slower cause. If there's no vets running MSQ roulette then those sprouts can make aTo people who want the MSQ cutscenes to be skippable - the moment that happens, MSQ roulette and its reward disappear. 1 as they all will be 4-man instances. 8 million at lvl 80. Plus, you can't throw them into msq roulette and have 1 minute trials mixed in with 40 minute cutscene fests. Fact is, CT is the lowest common denominator. Do 50/60, MSQ, and Alliance for 500 plus whatever the duties themselves give. The cutscenes need to be unskippable,. 5x-2x as long as the typical level 50 dungeon, due to the unskippable cutscenes. 0 Same goes for 50/60/70/80 roulette. The Alliance (24-man raid) roulette and the Levelling roulette are also quite generous when it comes to experience rewards, making them particularly appealing. The classic ones for exp are frontline, leveling, alliance and msq. Do. 2m exp reward from roulette, with 250k x2 from clearing mobs and boss, that works out to around 30% of the exp bar at that level. That said, it does get boring, and you're not going to learn how to integrate your level 60 skills in synced 50 content. As for EXP, they didn't say anything in the last live letter. 50/60 is a grab bag of different dungeons so it's easily the most variety filled rou of the set (Right next to leveling and the Raid Roulette). . If you want the rewards, the price IS sitting. but the rest of the players. Idk. Really depends on the raid. This option was actually a huge game-changer for MSQ roulette back in the day when its cutscenes were skippable, PS3 still existed, and it wasn't overgeared to the point of crushing it with 3 people. Nearly everything in the game is gated by the MSQ in one way or the other. Next, you need to unlock the two additional, non-story level 90 dungeons, Smileton and The Stigma Dreamscape. By and large you won't need to run roulettes much on your main job; other than an awkward spot in the high level 40s, the msq exp will be enough to level you without addition grinding necessary. CT is an excellent. Unless you have enough people exploiting cutscene skipping, I don't think you can do Praetorium in anywhere close to 36 minutes. World. Obviously the big talk in ARR MSQ Roulette is "The Praetorium" and "Castrum Meridianum". Specially Shadowbringers. They could easily whip up some easy hests that teach players stack markers, earthshakers, acceleration bombs, etc, using existing assets. It's because it's the lowest level. Because it was one of the biggest reasons new players wouldn't keep playing. Don't be scared of MSQ Roulette. TentativeFrey • 1 yr. Castrum and Praetorium are required to complete ARR. They could add ARF and maybe even Ala Mhigo to the MSQ roulette, though, and then make the. Then if tank or healer, que up for highest level dungeon. Roulette is not going away. It's ridiculous that people do that. Wish: If all players already watched the cutscenes, allow skip (by vote - more than 50%). Scholar Lv 90. Castrum aggro issues are often not the tank's fault. May as well make them soloable with Raha, Doga and Unei as duty support. Character was at level 67, and ended up with xp from the run corresponding to 85% of a level. Doggo Projectile Vomits All Over Door- 1:32. It contributes more XP so they overlevel MSQ even more (assuming they haven't already reached 90, or 70 if on free trial). Everything will probably integrated into levelling roulette. Running just the Lv80 dungeons even without the roulette bonus is faster tomes. MSQ Roulette also helps with jobs you can't play at higher levels because of job complexity or something like that. However, some dungeons must be unlocked via "blue quests". Simply playing through the Main Scenario Quest will unlock the majority of the trials and dungeons featured in the leveling roulette. Do you want that back? The reason why MSQ gives stupid rewards because SE is asking you to spend 40 minutes to an hour of your time to finish it. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. I like the inclusion of the sources. But if you queue as a level 50 job, you only have to wear level 50 gear. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. Big thanks to Satan Micsatan of Malboro for making my night!The stuff in MSQ Roulette is intentionally limited. As an aside, Meridianum has been optimized to the point where the runs are actually quite fast. EXP bonus varies by level and what duty you get. Trial roulettes stand head and shoulders above all others at a efficiency gain of 4. ago. Yep, if even one person queues up on their level 50-59 alt job, boom 23 other people get CT. Pick them up from blue sidequests in the Crystarium and Amaurot. 69. Hell, I'd argue you could probably end up earning more XP by chaining Leveling Roluettes. While I don't mind it being unskippable for any new players who want to enjoy the story, if everyone has already completed it (and watched the cutscene) once, it only really serves to further increase the amount of time it takes to do MSQ roulette. Alliance raid roulette is unlocked by having at least 2 alliance raids unlocked. It takes 15-20 minutes, and it’s 50% of a level. all Light Party duties vs. For example, I doubt you'll be able to achieve a whole level worth of XP for running Prae anymore, even with the roulette bonus. If a person is after a quick and easy run, the Mentor Roulette is never a good choice for that. Runtime: 22. MSQ will give you enough xp to level up, use your roulettes to level alt classes if you want to level them. For points earned in Eureka to increase Elemental level, see Elemental EXP. ago. I imagine that the reasons are well documented, so I’m not interested in listing them again. August 25th, 2010. This was really the only logical solution. It's because it's the lowest level. Same with MSQ roulette (after you cleared the two 8-players dungeons). Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette. Once the event ends, it should go back to normal again. ago. Simply playing through the Main Scenario Quest will unlock the majority of the trials and dungeons featured in the leveling roulette. Rather than splitting this by level, I think it would probably make more sense to split it by MSQ vs optional, with slightly better rewards for the optional one (since fewer people would be manually queueing for those). Prae belongs there. On average, a single Main Story roulette run will net you 43. Once you. ago. It's very often people who are just trying to level a job exclusively through MSQ roulette for completion/amaro mount. And to have the skip button means to forego the rewards of the roulette. Copperbell (Ambien of dungeons) almost put me to sleep the other day. 0 we will have 18 class to level up. Furthermore, older. The only way things will get added to the MSQ roulette is if they add more 8 man dungeons. Also, Leveling Roulette, before Endwalker, would give more than that. MSQ Roulette is great and valuable at exactly what it is: An extremely low-effort way to get a ton of experience and Poetics over the course of 40 minutes. For most of those who have overleveled their MSQ progress, the roulette bonus is more harmful than helpful. Goblin. 1 , various additional roulette modes have been added or changed to reflect the changing state of the game. That and it's 100% your choice if you queue for it every day to get that bonus XP. So what happened? This is not a new or surprising story, this is a normal day in MSQ Roulette. If you still want to grind exp you can do leveling dungeons without the daily roulette bonus and level up that way. If you want dungeons, you can queue for the 50607080 (as a roulette or specifically) to get the relevent tomestones. Note that the roulette bonus is available only once per day. Exact numbers of xp is irrelevant since that varied with level, and has been squished now anyway. That's only the people that forgot to immediately put on their equip again though before they hit commence button. 1, will be released in mid-April. The Praetorium and Castrum Meridianum are the worst dungeons and none of us want to do them. 60 at this point and have. Now you need 1 exp to level up and castrum gives 1 exp. That would fix the problems and stop the complaints about the alliance raid roulette. • 4 yr. Famfrit. Leveling roulette + Trial Roulette daily, until you have the ilevel (and the dungeons unlocked) to run level 60 roulette and ex roulette (skip leveling at this point). You willingly queued into a roulette and left when it wasn't the one you wanted. Or better. The Unskippable Cutscenes in the Main Scenario Roulette by u/ARCWolf7 : I want to skip the cutscenes, but I can't. Trial roulette is shit compared to the other roulettes, normal MSQ trials from HW onwards don't reward anything, and yeah patch trials aren't added to the roulette until the next expansion. for the past at least a month, doing MSQ roulette nearly every day, I typically never wait for more than five minutes for Main Scenario as a DPS. These are very worth it for leveling. It's not enough. For now the MSQ roulette is looking like another daily that I'm going to skip entirely for the foreseeable future. World. This option was actually a huge game-changer for MSQ roulette back in the day when its cutscenes were skippable, PS3 still existed, and it wasn't overgeared to the point of crushing it with 3 people. Scholar Lv 90. I remember doing two Endwalker trials outside of the MSQ out of trial roulette. I'm still using the roulette everyday for leveling classes to 90. MSQ and Alliance raid alone will net you nearly a full level and frontlines can easily net you a half a level. Unsure if you need 8 man raids normals. In total, there are 122 quests in this questline and the story unfolds further in “The Legend Returns” quests. . ago. Originally Posted by MintnHoney. 2,734 likes · 210 were here. By Jenny Zheng on March 4, 2022 at 3:12PM PST 2 Comments FFXIV's meatiest patch since Endwalker's release, 6. MSQ roulette (and its high rewards) does not exist because they want an MSQ roulette, though. Last edited by DarmaniLink; 09-12-2021 at 05:27 PM . So MSQ would have to stick around, or people would just nope out of those dungeons if they get them in the 50/60/70/80 roulette. With respect, if someone goes into the Mentor Roulette, they should be prepared to be a helpful Mentor and help someone with any content in the game. As I mentioned in another comment ITT I got my first level 90 in patch 2. Wrong. The roulette for it was just tossed there to try and get people to keep doing them so newbies could learn from them. But being required just adds to it even more. I don't think there's any fix to it, besides putting CT raids in MSQ Roulette/a new "Alliance MSQ Roulette", or making them single player duties somehow. 1m for every 1. WoD is the least effected by ilvl changes, but this would heavily influence mechanics seen in the others. I ended up with Preatorium, which is now just fighting the Ultima Weapon twice, then it's done. e fps and custcene loading time. By and large you won't need to run roulettes much on your main job; other than an awkward spot in the high level 40s, the msq exp will be enough to level you without addition grinding necessary. Sir__Will • 2 yr. Crystaline Conflict session lasts 5 mins top per run, and has decent pop times (if you don't paly in some really unpopular hours). It's fairly good experience, although that is up for debate, but it means that some people feel forced into doing it, others try to attend but spend as little time as possible actually engaging with the content, and others just flat out refuse to do it. However, assuming that you want to make the most of your time, we will now calculate EXP gain efficiency by dividing gains by time spent in each roulette. Scholar Lv 90. You must unlock these two dungeons if you want to do Expert Roulette, for Allagan Tomestones of Aphorism. First, the MSQ roulette. Also, I hope those Skipped cut scenes and 100% text was only A Realm Reborn. You'd also get 20 tomes from Trial Roulette, assuming you get the level 90 trial each time. I consider the MSQ Roulette exists for those people that want to heckle while helping random people through the mandatory plot. Goblin. It's easier to keep both the duty length and rewards at a set amount. There was a time when CT was not required for the MSQ and it was still always CT in the roulette. Level 70-79: IL 305 4. Edit: granted, if you're doing MSQ first time, you shouldn't even need to do Alliance roulette since MSQ exp is enough. Certainly boring, but a decidedly braindead way to get enough tomestone. As well, you can queue for the alliance roulette. This is the real reason why people love new players. So, for anyone whom had not heard, on the 12th, we will be losing Prae as we know it. For the MSQ roulette, particularly Praetorium, you should expect half a level. Nobody would run them without roulettes, especially because of the long unskippable cutscenes. But you can't unlock the the CT raids before you've finnished 2. step 6. Another alternative? Start a new class, and queue for PVP. Moogle events turn MSQ Roulette into Praetorium Roulette. Main Class. 69 (this is followed immediately by)The past SEVEN days in a row, my MSQ roulette has been Castrum Meredium and the Trial Roulette has been Cape Westwind (not complaining about this one since it takes like 2 minutes). What you guys think?Trying to get it removed. Watching the chocobo head's mouth wobble in cutscenes has been a great source of entertainment. Endwalker Bad (Yotsuyu Too) • 1 yr. Y'ser Tovaras. Main Class. Leveling roulettes provide, on average, 29. please tell me your tales from the roulette! In the past week, I have gotten: -Only Castrum Meridianum. If anything the duty roulette should tell me the exact amount of exp I will get. The solution is never to make casual content harder. That's fine I suppose. The roulette still gives off good XP and you can just consider it extra XP in your leveling runs. It's not mandatory content. Because it’s locking out the very small fraction of people who don’t have this stuff unlocked; if you are level 84 in the post ARR MSQ you aren’t helping anyone because the roulette doesn’t need any more incentive to pop CT, this change increased the priorities of people queuing for the roulette who are adequately levelled and have all the raids. As you level up, the amount of exp you get in the roulette lessons. That roulette is so emaciated at the moment, and those raids are now an integral part of the MSQ for both ShB and the EW (and even 6. [MSQ roulette] Public Today I decided to try the revamped MSQ roulette to see how it was. The purpose of the roulette is to fill parties. ErgoFnzy • 9 mo. The main issue is that unlike the other 2 duties, its still heavily outbalanced in cutscene vs combat (its not the number of cutscenes, its the time spent in them). MSQ roulette exists to give sprouts a chance to actually get partied up and watch all the cutscenes. Main Class. 6 Castrum gives, tested with classes being at the same level for a exp drop. The only reason its got such great rewards compared to other roulettes rn is to compensate for the time investment. Set lota to ilvl 90, syrcus to 110, and WoD to 130. The ARR MSQ Roulette really is a joke every instance I visit. Its worth doing MSQ roulette and doing POTD. For more context: the lower the level of a duty is, the higher your roulette bonus compensation is. The Normal Raid Roulette is basically the eight player version. 69. This used to be diffirent when castrum also had a cutscene everywhere. I will no longer be avoiding MSQ roulette like the plague - which I had been until now because, frankly, it was boring as all holy. The only real way to make the CT raids fun again is to ilvl cap them. If you don't want to watch the MSQ cutscenes more than you want the rewards, you can always not choose to queue up. I guess if you're leveling other jobs you have plenty options and should know to do the roulette before 60/70/etc. Main Scenario Roulette: Do you think they will ever add more cutscene heavy 8 player instances? [Discussion] I'm currently leveling the ShB jobs and doing my daily Main Scenario Roulette. It exists specifically for those two weird dungeons that are now being de-weirded. The SCH naïvely said hello, introduced herself, mentioned she was new. However, since Tuesday, Main Scenario has had an average of a 20 minute wait as a DPS. They should just change them into one time solo instances and get rid of the roulette entirely tbh. So once you've done the first one and have unlocked the second on in the crystal tower raid it will unlock. Then just increase the rewards so it’s like doing a boosted FATE once a day. Ever since I returned with Shadowbringers, every MSQ roulette and Alliance roulette has had at least one AFK person. Much more! At level 80 it's about 11k for In Need, + 16k? for leveling and alliance roulette. One of the reasons why FFXIV is so famous is because it's story has been considered one of the best RPG stories of the decade. To compare. ago. Duty roulete leveling opens when you have multiple dungeons unlocked. If you get The Aery which is a level 55 dungeon, the bonus. We've noticed on Twintania novice network that a number of new players have had extended MSQ trial queue times during daylight hours (in every role). 0 patch, but before - if you got Castrum Meridanium you earned about half a level total from instance xp plus roulette bonus, while Praetorium gave you nearly a whole levels worth of xp. As always, roulettes are a great source of experience relative to the time investment. Roulettes. The only thing I hate more than MSQ roulette is the solo duties you run in MSQ with a bunch of story NPCs, it feels so utterly pointless. Fact is, CT is the lowest common denominator. They already have the ilvl requirement, it just needs to scale to the level of the job you're using. Wissp. ago. Main Class. I think it's only slightly more than you would get doing your highest available dungeon back to back. Tomestones become useless for gearing (if they need accessible poetics gear for alt jobs, they could have. Rather than grind it out, I was just thinking about running an extra couple praetoriums, in addition to the normal msq roulette, for the duration of the event. that one Full party duty). The big difference is that you would only have to sit through a queue wait once for MSQ roulette to get that. I do 84% just in case the DPS is bringing it. Cid is a Creeper- 50. Since I still have ARR, HW, and EW relics I need to finish; I'll probably do MSQ roulette, Aglaia, Euphrosyne, and. Most of my runs (and I usually run with 1 or 2 sprouts from my FC for a 20% mentor bonus meaning 3 people are guaranteed to stay) end up with 2~4 players leaving right away as soon as the duty starts and a few more going AFK during. Erulogos • 3 yr. But there are a few things you can do: Hunt trains! As mentioned before, they're easily the fastest way. Goblin. Unfair comparison. If you get the two stuns, this is typically good enough to avoid the boss ever gaining the invulnerable buff unless your DPS is truly awful. 5 dungeon and trial. Sorry to sound a bit cheeky but really MSQ roulette is basically just show up and you get stupid amounts of exp. White Mage Lv 90. How are people getting through cutscenes in MSQ Roulette faster? BakusaiTenketsu 4 years ago #1 One of the tanks in my Castrum run is finishing cutscenes almost 10. It really is a lot easier than people think if you let MSQ stall for. 47% of your EXP bar. This change was never going to "fix" alliance roulette because ilevel cheese was never the main cause of "Crystal Tower Roulette" in the first place. The Alliance roulette is very rarely outside of the lvl 50 stuff and occasionally the lvl 60 runs with 8 time out of 10 are a joke as. It's to allow people that are new to even get groups for those dungeons, which are required to proceed. Both Healers were new, first-time players. See moreFFXIV splits Praetorium in three, but keeps MSQ roulette FFXIV's infamous Praetorium is about to become three separate duties as of patch 6. This should be every player's first priority. 76% EXP ratio per minute. The more correct solution would be to shorten the other raids so they are also completed in 15-20 minutes. ago. However, if it recognizes a new player, cutscenes become unskippable and the new player bonus becomes huge (equal to what it would be now) on top of an xp bonus. 0 Same goes for 50/60/70/80 roulette. You don't put in the amount of work to. Did you know, there exists an 8ppl Guildhest. The easiest solution is just throwing it in MSQ roulette. watch an episode of Voltron. Trials is not good on XP, but its always easy to do and doesnt take a lot of time. PVP Frontlines is i think 50 a match, each matches 10-20 mins, say Average 15mins thats 200 an Hour. This would likely be specific to the two 8-man dungeons in the MSQ roulette, both of which contain quite a few unskippable cutscenes; they were eventually made this way so new players wouldn't be missing out on the plot, as the norm before then was for players to skip all of them and steamroll the place. The alliance raid and normal raid roulete unlocks when you have unlocked 2 or more of them. There are no instances similar to Castrum, Praetorium and Porta Decumana, therefore no other instances need or should be added to MSQ roulette. So, I was just subjected to the half the party leaves Castrum event and I got to say it's dumb and it should be an actionable offense besides the penalty. MSQ and Alliance raid alone will net you nearly a full level and frontlines can easily net you a half a level. Outside of the very first time you do castrum/prae, it's probably the worst bit of content in the entire game. Just because someone said stuff is "easy" on a factual easy MSQ doesn't mean I make fun of people who are new to the content, making them do unnecessary "must do this" just to clear it; It's what elitists like you do. at the end. You aren’t allowed to skip cutscenes on the MSQ roulette because the purpose is to allow new players to get through the end of the ARR MSQ and see the cutscenes without having any pressure to skip them. Since patch 2. A better idea would be to make a separate MSQ Roulette, but focused on the Crystal Tower alliance raid series. Tykero980 Aug 7, 2021 @ 6:51am. I think even with an ilvl lock, if you leave CT raids in the regular roulette, you'd still end up with them most of the time because of free trialers that need it for MSQ, and high level. Assuming you finished the arr msq you should have the msq roulette. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. The MSQ roulette it's mostly intended for new players, and the rewards encourage older players to join it in order to keep the queues filled up. Porta Decumana @level 89 = 3,181,995/10,838,000 which is barely 30% exp. Leveling and trials are the only ones worth it for experience. back when i just started i thought MSQ roulette would include the x. So, if I'm a new player playing one character, the Alliance raid roulette will essentially always be available. The MSQ roulette was created as a separate thing from all the other roulettes, since Castrum and Praetorium have long, unskippable cutscenes. Okay, I have now done an MSQ roulette run of Praetorium post-patch 6. MSQ Roulette is very good to do when you are trying to level. Hunts and eureka (if there's enough people to. Everyone that queues for MSQ roulette is treating it like a chore that needs to be done because it gives great rewards. Don't. If you get a dungeon close to or at your level (51, 53, or 55) your roulette bonus is going to be minimal because you get a lot of exp from the mobs and bosses in said dungeon. In short, was mocked by a msq roulette "leech" (doing nothing while let the rest do the work but not afk) and who i assumed is their buddy (same server) after calling rhem out, they did that on purpose, said that themselves. So, if you have limited time, it's more efficient to que MSQ and leveling for a good chunk of XP, and give lesser priority to other roulettes. Or, like just 10 minutes, I get 60% of a level. . Lol this is so cute New players that was interested in the story couldn't watch it properly because vet players just rush through to the point that new players don't do anything in the run which killed it for some back in the day, SE made a compromise and made the cutscenes unskippable BUT they reward vets with a huge ton of EXP when they join MSQ roulette. Leveling is around 7-8 Million. The 50/60/70/80 Dungeons Roulette now contains MANY dungeons over a large range of levels, and the rewards seem lackluster. Never do 50/60/70 dungeon roulette. Spreading speed run strats is a great thing, and I for one applaud op's effort. One of the tanks needs to stun at around 82-84%. Level Requirement.